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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:50 pm

Prices at similar levels, but;

1) incomes significantly higher
2) more potential to grow your income
3) joint income tax filing (huge deal for a married high income earner)
4) mortgage interest write off (big deal for big mortgage / high income earner)

From a career / Finacial standpoint, it's hard to argue that the best and brightest can so better in the bigger US markets.

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That's What I was trying to say, and yes it's hard to argue the facts, unless your name is Vanreal. :roll:

And let's not forget the ability to lock in today's low mortgage rates for 30 years! That could turn out to be a huge benefit as rates start to return to normal. Some on this forum claimed it would never happen but it looks like it's about to start this month.

The US also has secondary cities where the quality of life can compare quite well with Vancouver but they have better weather and much cheaper homes, and when you visit Canada on vacation you get a 30% discount on your dollar exchange to help offset Vancouver's higher prices on almost everything.

Finally, intra-corporate transfers between Canada and the US are easy if you qualify, and many young professionals can.
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:09 pm

Here is the information regarding TN Visa requirements:
The visa category "Professionals Under the North American Free Trade Agreement" (also known as a TN Visa) is available only to citizens of Canada and Mexico, under the terms of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

Qualifications for a "TN" visa

A citizen of a NAFTA country may work in a professional occupation in the U.S. provided:

the profession is recognized under NAFTA; and
the alien possesses the specific criteria for that profession; and
the prospective position requires someone in that professional capacity; and
the alien is going to work for a U.S. employer.
If all of these conditions are met, then a TN may be issued.


Obtaining a "TN" Visa

To qualify for admission under this classification, citizens of Canada, at the U.S. Port of Entry, must:

Request "TN" status.
Bring the original documentation and provide a copy of the applicant's college degree and employment records which establish qualification for the prospective job.
Provide a letter from the prospective U.S.-based employer offering him/her a job in the United States.

Note: The job must be included in Appendix 1603.D.1 of NAFTA, which provides a list of provisions covered by the Agreement.
Pay a fee of US$50.

Canadian citizens are not required to obtain a visa, but instead receive "TN" status with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at their Port of Entry.
I agree with HomelessinSD that some career opportunities can be a lot brighter in the U.S.A.
Yes that might be the case for getting a visa but most professions have their own set of certifications for practice and that is where the real hoop jumping begins. As I said it's never as easy as you make it out to be. Combine that fact with the fact that house prices in exciting US destinations i.e New York, San Francisco, Boston, Washington area, Los Angeles are in the same ball park as prices in good Canadian cities i.e. Vancouver Toronto, then it's not an attractive option.
The property taxes in the US are more than double those in Canada and cities here have no equal down there. Transit in the US is terrible as well.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:53 am

higher income
higher medical costs

higher education costs
higher security costs

less safe
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:54 am

so true. LA, for instance, outside of gated ghettoes for assholes, is very run down, crumbling infrastruture, and the schools suck my friends tell me.

but mostly the very poor healthcare safety net scares me. no thanks. the US is way too dog eat dog a society for me to want to live there.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:55 am

plus i don't wnt to marry my gun. the gun culture there is toxic. and then there's all the domestic terrorism by loser white guys.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:32 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /76675776/

ooh look yet another mass shooting. what is it, every day now?
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:31 pm

MASS shooting. there's a difference.

but y'know, you keep telling yourself it's normal.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:34 pm

My point seems to have been missed again.

I love Vancouver! For me it is probably the best place to spend my last years, but then I'm not a young professional with bright career prospects but little chance of buying a SFH in a good neighbourhood.

I'm no appologist for all the warts on the USA, I don't like parts of Surrey, Abottsford or Vancouver's Eastside either, but I do recognize that some parts of the USA are very nice and have a lot of additional opportunities to offer young and talented people.

All the negatives that have been mentioned about the USA in the last few posts certainly exist but primarily apply to people on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Poor schools, poor healthcare, violent neighbourhoods, poor public transit, etc., etc.,. Yes it's more of a dog eat dog society down there but if you are capable of succeeding in life your chances of making it big are better than here.

For those who subscribe to socialism's goal of the equal distribution of poverty, Canada is less than ideal too. Successful people here still get to live much better lives than failures and those who never even tried. You only need to have watched the 99 percenters rallies to see how much that infuriates the left wing. "Eat the Rich!!!

In the USA, successful people usually have excellent healthcare insurance (much better than ours), they don't use public transit, their kids go to great schools in nice neighbourhoods, and in many places down there one doesn't have to live in "gated ghettos for assholes" in order to be just as safe as in the better Vancouver neighbourhoods.

It's also worth pointing out that, just like other segments of the US demographic, not all people with money are "assholes", but the poorer neighbourhoods often have a disproportionate share of such characters, hence the differing crime rates.
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:48 pm

So misguided: high income people in the U.S. dont pay any medical premiums - it's covered by their employers. The best and brightest get the best benefits.

I don't mean any offense, but "average" is awarded in more socialists countries like Canada.

Shooting in Southern California today, killed 14 people. Horrible situation - can't argue against that. My guess is more crazy extremists.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:23 am

couldn't pay me 3x my salary to live in the US.
1050 mass shootings murders past 2 years.
Have at 'er Geyser...I'll pack your bags for you.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:53 am

I know some "successful" people who are lumped with HMOs. And let's not forget the endless paperwork and bureaucracy set up around their healthcare. But so what?

If all you (general you) care about is money and a very narrow definition of success then have at her, the US will fit your values. But I know many people, including myself, who don't wish to bring up kids in the US or live there. Hell, I was just talking to one last night who insisted her successful husband take them back to Canada. Their political culture is toxic, there's a general lack of empathy for the poor and a lack of community feeling, and so on. IF you're happy living in a gated commiunity and pretending none of that matters, like South Africa, then it is a great fit. IT's just not a world I want to live in or want my children growing up in. LUckily for me I've lived outside north america so I know there's lots of great places to live.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:55 am

So misguided: high income people in the U.S. dont pay any medical premiums - it's covered by their employers. The best and brightest get the best benefits.

I don't mean any offense, but "average" is awarded in more socialists countries like Canada.

Shooting in Southern California today, killed 14 people. Horrible situation - can't argue against that. My guess is more crazy extremists.
I'll bet you love Ayn Rand too. Sociopathy abounds. Oh well, some people literally don't have that part of the brain that feels empathy, they can't help it. I just don't want to be in a culture like that.
 
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:24 pm

My point seems to have been missed again.

I love Vancouver! For me it is probably the best place to spend my last years, but then I'm not a young professional with bright career prospects but little chance of buying a SFH in a good neighbourhood.

I'm no appologist for all the warts on the USA, I don't like parts of Surrey, Abottsford or Vancouver's Eastside either, but I do recognize that some parts of the USA are very nice and have a lot of additional opportunities to offer young and talented people.

All the negatives that have been mentioned about the USA in the last few posts certainly exist but primarily apply to people on the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum. Poor schools, poor healthcare, violent neighbourhoods, poor public transit, etc., etc.,. Yes it's more of a dog eat dog society down there but if you are capable of succeeding in life your chances of making it big are better than here.

For those who subscribe to socialism's goal of the equal distribution of poverty, Canada is less than ideal too. Successful people here still get to live much better lives than failures and those who never even tried. You only need to have watched the 99 percenters rallies to see how much that infuriates the left wing. "Eat the Rich!!!

In the USA, successful people usually have excellent healthcare insurance (much better than ours), they don't use public transit, their kids go to great schools in nice neighbourhoods, and in many places down there one doesn't have to live in "gated ghettos for assholes" in order to be just as safe as in the better Vancouver neighbourhoods.

It's also worth pointing out that, just like other segments of the US demographic, not all people with money are "assholes", but the poorer neighbourhoods often have a disproportionate share of such characters, hence the differing crime rates.
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Re: Vancouver indvidual property sales details

Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:26 pm

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