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Re: Should the government intervene?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:18 pm

I understand everyone's frustration at the housing market, if I were on the other side I would have some frustration as well. Indeed it sucks that most locals cant afford the "American dream" ect, ect, ect. There is the world how we envision it and there is the world that is.

After the great depression after world war 1, one political party in Europe started to blame the bad economy on a certain ethnic group, they claimed they owned all the banks and corrupted everything. That turned into the third Reich and Hitler presented the "final solution" to get rid of all the Jews. Its scary how people don't learn from the past about discrimination and blaming other people (ex all Muslims for terrorism) for all of the problems. Anti Chinese sentiment is similar to antisemitism

I don't have all the answers and solutions, all I know is that we are not all innocent bystanders getting raped by foreign money. This is the direct result of globalization, the magic genie has been let out and cant be put back in. Everyone wants cheap iphones, electronics and clothing. ALL of this crap comes from China, who buys all our lumber, gas, and potash??? If it wasn't for China buying all our natural resources Canada would be a lump of coal.

I make the argument that China has gotten the worst part of the deal, millions upon millions of farmers have been displaced and now need to work in factories to make iphones for you. A product that they could never afford. How is it fair that they lose their land, work for dirty pay and cant even afford the very products they make for some scum bag in Canada???? what are there thoughts on that.

To say that some Chinese people came over with dirty money and now I cant afford to live in the West side or own a detached home as my first purchase is STUPID. You cant take the good but not leave the bad. Its cause and effect, if you don't want dirty Chinese money stop feeding into consumerism that fuels their economy
Exactly.  Thats a home depot securing device right on the head and clever.  Everyone and his or her pets are assigning fault to the Asians/Chinese. It is razor sharp and detailed to that group. Nobody is entitled to a cheap house.
The fear of the yellow hoard/peril has always been alive like the fear of a black or Muslim planet.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:45 pm

entitled whiners again thinking their pompous arrogant elitist ways are somehow better than someone elses.
don't give a shit if you are a doctor or a nurse or teacher.
that don't mean shit. it's like a farmer saying his crop and field is worth the same as the next farmer. all farmers have different levels of success.
there are plenty of professionals that missed the boat. there are plenty of them that didnt.
your profession doesn't matter. your risk taking and opportunity seizing matters.
we can be jealous of realtors who made a killing but in the end you probably just wish you were them. that's the whiny entitlement.
i am sorry but i'll repeat, it's like getting mad you missed out on google, microsoft or any other stock like apple that other seized that opportunity.
don't get mad your neighbor drives a ferrari and you don't

dont get mad that a wolf ate a hen

We have a shortage of doctors here. When you need a doctor and none is available maybe then you will give a shit. Or you would rather have a foreign money launderer perform surgery on you?
Schools are closing in Vancouver & are overcrowded in Surrey. The parents of the students care that teachers can't afford homes.
As for missing the boat ... yes some people did. But, what about CANADIAN kids who are in high school right now? They have no chance to own anything, ever. Not that you care.
If you exclude single family home (since locals can't afford them) then you are left with condos & townhouses. Only 5% of these units are 3 bedrooms and those units are expensive to buy and rent for average family income. So, how are Canadians (who work here) with with kids supposed to live here?

If you don't see a problem then I guess you just don't understand the situation!









So a doctor can't live in langley or alder Grove or fort langley or Abbotsford?

Are they handicapped?

Can they not work near their residence?
There isn't a shortgage of doctors.  No profession is automatically entitled to a cheap house. If doctors didn't keep whining for more increases to their MSP billing tables all the time then it wouldn't be hard at all to get more doctors.   No kid(or person) is entitled to a cheap house regardless of whether or not they are born.  Families without a high income are entitled to assistance with paying their rent for market housing in BC(not co-op housing, not welfare). I dont give a flying F word if the schools are closing, although people that whine about schools should be happy people come to buy houses at high prices and live or not live in them since that will reduce the tax so called 'canadians' will have to pay lol.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:30 pm

Yea exactly. It's funny when backwards poor people pull the Canadian card. So what they've lived here for generations. Didn't do shit then, not much better if not worse now.

They are just mad the government gave up on their lazy welfare mouths and made the business decision to seek help keeping this country afloat abroad elsewhere.

They didn't see much improvement investing in the lazy entitled. Because years of doing so didn't give the results they were looking for
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:24 pm

It's very similar to Darwinism, you cant have the majority of the population rich with beautiful homes and tons of money in the bank. The capitalist market works on the pyramid structure, we need lots and lots of people in the bottom to keep up the middle, and middle people to prop up the upper crust. Thinking everyone should have a affordable home which cheap payments and excellent hourly wages is stupid. Everyone can't be royalty, there needs to be common folk.

Crying foreign money is stupid, its a capitalistic market. What ever foreign money is doing you can do to, its not like they have access to homes for purchase that you are not privy to, its just they have more money.  The mentality is similar to the Automotive union jobs pre 2008. Just squeezing more and more money out of the union. To a point where high school drop outs doing manual labor is getting paid huge sums of money. Trying to use the government to control housing is liken to using a union to unfairly hinder a "free" capitalistic market. It just doesnt work, its not communism.

Also only the strong survive, its a tough thing to swallow, the smart people can adapt and use the situation to their advantage, realtors, brokers, banks.. who ever is making money now. The smart money should be rewarded, not people who were born with a certain citizenship and learn to bitch about it when the grow up to get rules changed into their favor. House to expensive to buy??? study harder, save money and send your kids to university. Move in with a family member to save costs.. Maybe your kids might have a chance at buying a house in the future. ALLOT of these sacrifices were made by Asian immigrants in the 70-80's. Now allot of them have a leg up and their kids have found more success.

Lots of people make fun of East Indians for having multiple family in 1 house. What ever it takes to survive and get ahead. Canadians think they are above this........
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:28 pm

So ridiculous when ppl complain about the Chinese or Russian or viet communists are coming like this is 1960s.

But ironically they are asking for communism with their requests for handout for welfare housing.

All I can do is LOL.

Freedom and free market capitalism? That's the game you wanna play.???? Lol. You ain't playing your own game right. You want communism

Ppl don't even realize how stupid they are LOL
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:37 am

It's very similar to Darwinism, you cant have the majority of the population rich with beautiful homes and tons of money in the bank. The capitalist market works on the pyramid structure, we need lots and lots of people in the bottom to keep up the middle, and middle people to prop up the upper crust. Thinking everyone should have a affordable home which cheap payments and excellent hourly wages is stupid. Everyone can't be royalty, there needs to be common folk.

Crying foreign money is stupid, its a capitalistic market. What ever foreign money is doing you can do to, its not like they have access to homes for purchase that you are not privy to, its just they have more money.  The mentality is similar to the Automotive union jobs pre 2008. Just squeezing more and more money out of the union. To a point where high school drop outs doing manual labor is getting paid huge sums of money. Trying to use the government to control housing is liken to using a union to unfairly hinder a "free" capitalistic market. It just doesnt work, its not communism.

Also only the strong survive, its a tough thing to swallow, the smart people can adapt and use the situation to their advantage, realtors, brokers, banks.. who ever is making money now. The smart money should be rewarded, not people who were born with a certain citizenship and learn to bitch about it when the grow up to get rules changed into their favor. House to expensive to buy??? study harder, save money and send your kids to university. Move in with a family member to save costs.. Maybe your kids might have a chance at buying a house in the future. ALLOT of these sacrifices were made by Asian immigrants in the 70-80's. Now allot of them have a leg up and their kids have found more success.

Lots of people make fun of East Indians for having multiple family in 1 house. What ever it takes to survive and get ahead. Canadians think they are above this........
I say we just tax the foreigners and they can go elsewhere.

Yes - Canadians are all lazy. That 18 year old Asian student with a $200k sportscar and a N sticker probably worked his way to that car - LOL

Hypocrites unite!!!! Demonizer, tdma and yzfr1 enjoy the free fall!!!

HahahahhahahHahahah
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:02 am

Reallyreal2 must be in the bottom 1% to have this attitude that government needs to step in and take from the rich and give to the poor.  Those who have usually don't need to whine. 
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:06 am

Reallyreal2 must be in the bottom 1% to have this attitude that government needs to step in and take from the rich and give to the poor.  Those who have usually don't need to whine. 
What whining? I am watching a bunch of realtors and such cry about a very justified tax.

Hahahahahaha... Soother sales my be at an all time high for real estate agents in Vancouver.

As a Canadian citizen - I am untouched by this great tax.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:45 am

So ridiculous when ppl complain about the Chinese or Russian or viet communists are coming like this is 1960s.

But ironically  they are asking for communism  with their requests for handout for welfare housing.

All I can do is LOL.

Freedom and free market capitalism? That's the game you wanna play.???? Lol. You ain't playing your own game right. You want communism

Ppl don't even realize how stupid they are LOL
Well the other guy even agreed. He said Canadians are all lazy.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:23 am

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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:42 am

What ever foreign money is doing you can do to, its not like they have access to homes for purchase that you are not privy to, its just they have more money. 
i've said it before, Canada needs to do a better job at educating Canadians and help to equip them with the tools to compete on the world stage but keep them here instead of going abroad for work.
so in addition to the education part, there is a need to nurture our economy to give people good jobs.

we are a large country with small population so that is hurdle to overcome.

this is why we need to keep bringing people and money here.
in keeping foreigners out, what they've essentially done is eliminated a bunch of jobs and put an obstacle in front of economic growth.

good job whiners!
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:58 am

next tax on speculators should be on all, including Canadian citizens (married couples) who own more than their principal residence.
We all know of people who own multiple homes and rent them out. Not declaring the income to CRA and not paying capital gains on the sale.

I know of a couple who bought a detached property just to rent it as an air BNB.

Property taxes on this kind of speculations needs to be 2x. 
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:47 am

It's very similar to Darwinism, you cant have the majority of the population rich with beautiful homes and tons of money in the bank. The capitalist market works on the pyramid structure, we need lots and lots of people in the bottom to keep up the middle, and middle people to prop up the upper crust. Thinking everyone should have a affordable home which cheap payments and excellent hourly wages is stupid. Everyone can't be royalty, there needs to be common folk.

Crying foreign money is stupid, its a capitalistic market. What ever foreign money is doing you can do to, its not like they have access to homes for purchase that you are not privy to, its just they have more money.  The mentality is similar to the Automotive union jobs pre 2008. Just squeezing more and more money out of the union. To a point where high school drop outs doing manual labor is getting paid huge sums of money. Trying to use the government to control housing is liken to using a union to unfairly hinder a "free" capitalistic market. It just doesnt work, its not communism.

Also only the strong survive, its a tough thing to swallow, the smart people can adapt and use the situation to their advantage, realtors, brokers, banks.. who ever is making money now. The smart money should be rewarded, not people who were born with a certain citizenship and learn to bitch about it when the grow up to get rules changed into their favor. House to expensive to buy??? study harder, save money and send your kids to university. Move in with a family member to save costs.. Maybe your kids might have a chance at buying a house in the future. ALLOT of these sacrifices were made by Asian immigrants in the 70-80's. Now allot of them have a leg up and their kids have found more success.

Lots of people make fun of East Indians for having multiple family in 1 house. What ever it takes to survive and get ahead. Canadians think they are above this........
I say we just tax the foreigners and they can go elsewhere.

Yes - Canadians are all lazy.  That 18 year old Asian student with a $200k sportscar and a N sticker probably worked his way to that car - LOL

Hypocrites unite!!!! Demonizer, tdma and yzfr1 enjoy the free fall!!!  

HahahahhahahHahahah
there you have it, there is no more point in arguing with someone who's main objective is just to keep people away as people are the engine of society.

might be better he just hides in the woods like a hermit so he can't be seen by anyone.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:48 am

It's very similar to Darwinism, you cant have the majority of the population rich with beautiful homes and tons of money in the bank. The capitalist market works on the pyramid structure, we need lots and lots of people in the bottom to keep up the middle, and middle people to prop up the upper crust. Thinking everyone should have a affordable home which cheap payments and excellent hourly wages is stupid. Everyone can't be royalty, there needs to be common folk.

Crying foreign money is stupid, its a capitalistic market. What ever foreign money is doing you can do to, its not like they have access to homes for purchase that you are not privy to, its just they have more money.  The mentality is similar to the Automotive union jobs pre 2008. Just squeezing more and more money out of the union. To a point where high school drop outs doing manual labor is getting paid huge sums of money. Trying to use the government to control housing is liken to using a union to unfairly hinder a "free" capitalistic market. It just doesnt work, its not communism.

Also only the strong survive, its a tough thing to swallow, the smart people can adapt and use the situation to their advantage, realtors, brokers, banks.. who ever is making money now. The smart money should be rewarded, not people who were born with a certain citizenship and learn to bitch about it when the grow up to get rules changed into their favor. House to expensive to buy??? study harder, save money and send your kids to university. Move in with a family member to save costs.. Maybe your kids might have a chance at buying a house in the future. ALLOT of these sacrifices were made by Asian immigrants in the 70-80's. Now allot of them have a leg up and their kids have found more success.

Lots of people make fun of East Indians for having multiple family in 1 house. What ever it takes to survive and get ahead. Canadians think they are above this........
I say we just tax the foreigners and they can go elsewhere.

Yes - Canadians are all lazy.  That 18 year old Asian student with a $200k sportscar and a N sticker probably worked his way to that car - LOL

Hypocrites unite!!!! Demonizer, tdma and yzfr1 enjoy the free fall!!!  

HahahahhahahHahahah
that's none of your business. lots of people work, some don't have to. got lucky inheritance or rich family. this hasn't ever changed. you just don't like that someone is more successful than you.
 
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Re: Should the government intervene?

Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:50 am

Reallyreal2 must be in the bottom 1% to have this attitude that government needs to step in and take from the rich and give to the poor.  Those who have usually don't need to whine. 
What whining?  I am watching a bunch of realtors and such cry about a very justified tax.  

Hahahahahaha... Soother sales my be at an all time high for real estate agents in Vancouver.

As a Canadian citizen - I am untouched by this great tax.
you may not be touched directly but indirectly you will.

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