West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local realtor

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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby vanpro » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:28 am

Wow! totally contradicting ETB, Think Tom et al....

This quote from this realtor (Sam Wyatt) says it all:

"The Months of Inventory (MOI) metric for all West side Vancouver home types rose again in January. The Detached MOI remains over 9 months, Attached surged to 8.98 and Apartments jumped to 7.1. This is a very disturbing trend that indicates a falling market over the next 6 months. This inventory is building in spite of the lowest fixed mortgage rates in history.

Listings grew month over month from December but sales volumes did not meet the pace. In January we had 796 active detached homes for sale on the West side but only 86 sales. Compare that to January 2011 where we had 402 listings but 134 sales. Last month I said that if things continue like this then the market will be in for tough times. Over nine months of inventory a second month in a row does not bode well."
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby registered » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:31 am

I blame the NDP.
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby eyesthebye » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:55 am

vanpro wrote:Wow! totally contradicting ETB, Think Tom et al....

This quote from this realtor (Sam Wyatt) says it all:

"The Months of Inventory (MOI) metric for all West side Vancouver home types rose again in January. The Detached MOI remains over 9 months, Attached surged to 8.98 and Apartments jumped to 7.1. This is a very disturbing trend that indicates a falling market over the next 6 months. This inventory is building in spite of the lowest fixed mortgage rates in history.

Listings grew month over month from December but sales volumes did not meet the pace. In January we had 796 active detached homes for sale on the West side but only 86 sales. Compare that to January 2011 where we had 402 listings but 134 sales. Last month I said that if things continue like this then the market will be in for tough times. Over nine months of inventory a second month in a row does not bode well."


huh?
I have no idea how much total inventory there is on the west side since I only track under 2M properties.
I heard that there were 100 listings just in Shaugnessy alone - the total on the market must be getting up there. Doesn't matter for the run-of-the-mill detached buyer though since this is Chinese market...that's why I only track less than $2million detached properties.

If these westside owners fail to find buyers for these properties it may or may not filter to cheaper detached. I'm pretty sure that these owners are not effected by normal economic or market cycles.
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby vanpro » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:28 pm

eyesthebye wrote:
vanpro wrote:Wow! totally contradicting ETB, Think Tom et al....

This quote from this realtor (Sam Wyatt) says it all:

"The Months of Inventory (MOI) metric for all West side Vancouver home types rose again in January. The Detached MOI remains over 9 months, Attached surged to 8.98 and Apartments jumped to 7.1. This is a very disturbing trend that indicates a falling market over the next 6 months. This inventory is building in spite of the lowest fixed mortgage rates in history.

Listings grew month over month from December but sales volumes did not meet the pace. In January we had 796 active detached homes for sale on the West side but only 86 sales. Compare that to January 2011 where we had 402 listings but 134 sales. Last month I said that if things continue like this then the market will be in for tough times. Over nine months of inventory a second month in a row does not bode well."


huh?
I have no idea how much total inventory there is on the west side since I only track under 2M properties.
I heard that there were 100 listings just in Shaugnessy alone - the total on the market must be getting up there. Doesn't matter for the run-of-the-mill detached buyer though since this is Chinese market...that's why I only track less than $2million detached properties.

If these westside owners fail to find buyers for these properties it may or may not filter to cheaper detached. I'm pretty sure that these owners are not effected by normal economic or market cycles.


Yet, from your own analysis, less and less Chinese are buying (since that is a "Chinese market") and more and more of the current owners are listing to sell.....
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby rediculous » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:43 pm

Eyesthebye: "RE market sage, spin-master extrodinaire"
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby metalhead » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:51 pm

registered wrote:I blame the NDP.

lol
I blame Obama.






Oh wait, that only works down here in OK. :P
I blame the education system in Vancouver for failing this guy.
He should have learnt somewhere along the way that RE only goes up in the BPOE.
I'm surprised he ever got his RE license. :mrgreen:
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby HAM » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:46 pm

Eventually Van east will be affected. Richmond MOI ain't too pretty either. Developers in Richmond and other burbs are starting to give incentives. Some Van east properties are discounting as well. I've posted some but it never made it to the boards.
So jimmy said I missed the dip in Richmond last year. And now prices have fallen even more with no balance in sight! The poor old man is just too old and grumpy!
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby eyesthebye » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:48 pm

vanpro wrote:
eyesthebye wrote:
vanpro wrote:Wow! totally contradicting ETB, Think Tom et al....

This quote from this realtor (Sam Wyatt) says it all:

"The Months of Inventory (MOI) metric for all West side Vancouver home types rose again in January. The Detached MOI remains over 9 months, Attached surged to 8.98 and Apartments jumped to 7.1. This is a very disturbing trend that indicates a falling market over the next 6 months. This inventory is building in spite of the lowest fixed mortgage rates in history.

Listings grew month over month from December but sales volumes did not meet the pace. In January we had 796 active detached homes for sale on the West side but only 86 sales. Compare that to January 2011 where we had 402 listings but 134 sales. Last month I said that if things continue like this then the market will be in for tough times. Over nine months of inventory a second month in a row does not bode well."


huh?
I have no idea how much total inventory there is on the west side since I only track under 2M properties.
I heard that there were 100 listings just in Shaugnessy alone - the total on the market must be getting up there. Doesn't matter for the run-of-the-mill detached buyer though since this is Chinese market...that's why I only track less than $2million detached properties.

If these westside owners fail to find buyers for these properties it may or may not filter to cheaper detached. I'm pretty sure that these owners are not effected by normal economic or market cycles.


Yet, from your own analysis, less and less Chinese are buying (since that is a "Chinese market") and more and more of the current owners are listing to sell.....


you like eating fish - and you know there are less fish to catch but heck, your belly is already full and you have plenty of other options in the fridge. Why not
put a line in the water? Just because you didn't catch the fish doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the hobby of fishing.
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Re: West Side Vancouver MOI Very High according to local rea

Postby jesse1 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:19 pm

The westside market is not one market, I expect there are more than a few areas selling quite well. Personally I don't track sub-areas, I'm a macro guy, and can't see trees to save my life.
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