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Property seduction will sting China

Postby Taipan » Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:36 pm

Property seduction will sting China

Sydney’s real estate agents were celebrating yesterday after a Mosman waterfront property – which had been sitting on the market for three years – sold for what was the second highest price this salubrious North Shore suburb has seen so far this year.

According to the selling agent, two buyers – a Sydneysider and a buyer from China – ended up vying for the property, which helped push the price above the $11 million mark. And although in this case the local won out, Sydney agents are deeply aware that mainland Chinese buyers are providing a welcome boost for the languishing top end of the Sydney property market.

Sydney, of course, isn’t alone. Chinese buyers are helping to drive up the price of Hong Kong’s luxury apartments, and are emerging as key players in property markets as far afield as London, Singapore, San Francisco and Melbourne.

There are two reasons why Chinese buyers have become increasingly interested in acquiring offshore assets such as property. In the first place, there’s mounting concern about the Chinese economic outlook, particularly now that exports are clearly slumping. At the same time, Chinese buyers also see their offshore property purchases as a handy insurance policy, in case of rising political instability in their homeland.

The latest Chinese trade figures show that the European recession is hitting China hard, with exports growing at a miserable annual pace of 1 per cent in July, down from June’s 11.3 per cent rate. The slowing global economy is a major concern for mercantilist countries such as China – which rely on exporting their surplus savings to the rest of the world and importing excess demand. They reap huge benefits when the global economy is growing, but they pay a high price when global growth falters, and when demand for their exports withers.

But growing capital outflows represent a major economic challenge for Beijing. For the past decade, the Chinese central bank has been engaged in a massive money-printing exercise aimed at preventing the Chinese currency from rising. Sic something ive talked about numerous times on this forum

Huge quantities of yuan were printed so that Chinese banks could absorb the foreign currency flowing into the country, both from the Chinese trade surplus, and as hot money flowed into the country to take advantage of strong Chinese growth and rising asset prices.

Now this massive inflow of funds has stopped. According to figures released by China’s central bank this week, Chinese banks were net sellers of 3.8 billion yuan ($597 million) in foreign exchange last month, a clear sign that investors are pulling funds out of the country, and that some exporters are choosing not to convert their foreign exchange earnings into yuan.

Indeed, over the last 10 months, China’s banks have only purchased 145 billion yuan in foreign exchange, a tiny fraction of the 905 billion yuan that China has earned as a result of its trade surplus with the rest of the world.

As a result, Beijing is now struggling to support its currency, rather than fighting to stop it from rising. Since the beginning of the year, the yuan has dropped 0.7 per cent against the dollar, and the Chinese central bank has had to battle to stop it from falling even further.

But the pick-up in hot money outflows is also having an impact on Chinese asset prices. There’s little doubt that the huge capital inflows over the past decade played a major role in pushing Chinese real estate and equity markets higher. Now that they’ve changed course, Chinese asset prices are deflating. The Shanghai Composite Index is down 17 per cent compared with a year ago, while Chinese house prices remain under pressure.

Beijing will be deeply concerned that falling asset prices are savaging business confidence and causing investment to slide, crippling its attempts to revive the flagging Chinese economy.
Geezer: "What if somebody listened to Taipan and doesnt buy".

Well, they will thank their lucky stars, that they arent one of the thousands of miserable souls who cant sell their properties in 2013!
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Re: Property seduction will sting China

Postby Geyser » Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:19 pm

No problem, they kept the yuan low by buying vast quantities of gold, all they have to do is reverse the effect by dumping vast quantities of gold. It might cause the forecasts of $800 per ounce gold to arrive but I'm okay, I sold the last if my gold to pay for new suspension struts on my old van. Looks like it was good timing!
What if somebody listened to Taipan and missed that 61% increase in SFH values in just 39 months? They would have missed one of the biggest money making opportunities in Vancouver real estate for many years.
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Re: Property seduction will sting China

Postby semven » Sun Aug 19, 2012 8:33 am

Another Taipan thread where he shows his ignorance by publicly showing his inability to accept that you cant use local metrics to justify pricing in the face of global demand.
On the other hand, his graphs et al would work for a trailer home in the Death Valley....
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Re: Property seduction will sting China

Postby gse36 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:46 am

China's RE has hit bottom according to some.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 ... -rate-cuts

What does this mean for Vancouver RE? Will they buy here after realizing more profits back home? Or will they not buy here since it seems better to invest back home? (rising market supposedly!)
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Re: Property seduction will sting China

Postby timber2012 » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:45 am

gse36 wrote:China's RE has hit bottom according to some.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-0 ... -rate-cuts

What does this mean for Vancouver RE? Will they buy here after realizing more profits back home? Or will they not buy here since it seems better to invest back home? (rising market supposedly!)


Chinese are like sheep....

They'll just move to the next casino if they see a hot roulette table.
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